Liposomal vitamin C is said to be more readily absorbed than conventional vitamin C tablets. Using an ultrasonic cleaner, vodka, lecithin and vitamin C powder you can make your own!
What is Liposomal?
When you combine something like ascorbic acid powder with a phospholipid, a molecule is created that is similar to our cells, making it easy for these molecules to be absorbed into a cell.
Liposomes can be formed through a process known as sonication. Sonication utilizes sound energy to agitate particles, thus prompting the release of nutrients. It is most often used to clean jewelry, surgical instruments, and other items by loosening stuck particles. In this case, an ultrasonic cleaner is used to create liposomes.
Ultrasonic cleaners are readily available ranging in price from $25-$90. Amazon carries a wide variety of cleaners found here.
The ideal way to combine these ingredients is using an ultrasonic cleaner, ascorbic acid powder, lecithin granules and alcohol. A more precise recipe than the one below can be found here.
I use organic Camu Camu powder for this recipe. Camu Camu is a fruit with an exceptionally high amount of vitamin C. I find the powder tastes much like the Liposomal Vitamin C found online.
Ingredients
- Two tablespoons ascorbic acid powder. (I use Camu Camu powder. Sources here.)
- Two tablespoons vodka
- Six tablespoons soy or liquid sunflower lecithin or granules (One possible source of sunflower lecithin is My Sunflower Lecithin)
- Three cups distilled water (Divide into 2 cups and 1 cup.)
- Ultrasonic cleaner
Instructions
1. Blend Lecithin with 2 cups distilled water. (If using granules they will need to soak a minimum of 2 hours, preferably overnight.
2. Stir vitamin C powder and vodka into 1 cup distilled water.
3. Pour lecithin mixture and powder mixture into a high-speed blender.
4. Blend thoroughly.
5. Pour into ultrasonic cleaner and blend for 10-30 minutes.The mixture should be somewhat thick with no lumps or separations.
6. Re-blend if mixture does not blend properly.
7. Pour into mason jars.
8. Store in refrigerator.
9. Take 1-2 tablespoons daily or as needed.
You'll want to purchase the purest sources you can find.
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Ingredients
- 2 tablespoons ascorbic acid powder. (I now use camu camu powder as there is some controversy as to reliable brands of ascorbic powder.)
- 2 tablespoons vodka
- 6 tablespoons soy or liquid sunflower lecithin or granules (One possible source: My Sunflower Lecithin )
- 3 cups distilled water (Divide into 2 cups and 1 cup.)
- Ultrasonic cleaner
Instructions
- Blend lecithin with 2 cups distilled water. (If using granules they will need to soak a minimum of 2 hours, preferably overnight.
- Stir vitamin C powder into 1 cup distilled water.
- Pour lecithin mixture and powder mixture into high speed blender.
- Blend thoroughly.
- Pour into ultrasonic cleaner and blend for 10-30 minutes.The mixture should be somewhat thick with no lumps or separations.
- Re-blend if mixture does not separate properly.
- Pour into mason jars.
- Store in refrigerator.
- Take 1-2 tablespoons daily or as needed.
Concerned about soy lecithin? This article by Chris Kresser may help.
found here.
Disclaimer: I have not lab tested this recipe to know for sure the absorption rate or effectiveness. Using the alcohol recipe noted above may help this absorb even more. In the past we have done well with the LivOn brand of liposomal vitamin C. Most vitamin C powder is derived from corn. For this reason, I use a pure food form of vitamin C. While I can’t say it is as effective as store-bought liposomal vitamin C, I can say it has helped me on numerous occasions.
Hi Andrea,
Thank you for posting this, this is great! I’m wondering how you determine the dosing using this? I would love to make it…:)
I dose as much as in the LivOn packages which is between 1-2 tablespoons. The good news is that I don’t think I can overdo it – I trust my instincts on what is enough and so far so good. Great question!
I’m trying to get word out about a process to make significantly higher potency liposomal vitamin C. I’m selling nothing (there are not even ads on the site), I simply want to help people make better liposomal vitamin C.
Here is the link: http://qualityliposomalc.com
Thanks!
Chris
Hi Chris! Yours is the article I link to at the end of my post! Thanks for the comment.
Oops! Thanks for the link! 🙂
hi chris,
any reason not to use liquid sunflower lecithin?
if not how much in your recipe?
regards
mike
I use the liquid in my recipe, Mike. You can ask Chris directly for his recipe.
Hi Mike,
I would tend to stay away from the oil as all you really want is the highest concentration of phosphatidylcholine possible. It’s the phosphatidylcholine that actually makes the liposomes.
Granules tend to have the highest percentage. The oil has phosphatidylcholine, however, I believe it’s bound with glucose. I’m not sure if this will allow good liposome formation.
However, if that’s what you have – try it out. You’ll know its working if you can take much more C with out the ‘flush’.
Good luck,
Chris
Hi Chris I am about to make the Lip C and I too was wondering if the Vit C oxidizes a bit with all the blending and irradiating. And would that not be bad? Also I have one of the smaller jewelry makers ultrasonic things and was wondering if I can rest it on the plastic cage in it? Or just place the cup on a paper towel? My cup is curves and I don’t have a way to prop it up like you do…
I’m not sure on this, Mary. Chris is the expert. I refer to his site above.
Hi Mary,
Vitamin C will oxidize. You can tell it’s oxidized because it will become yellow.
In my experience I’ve found vitamin C much more stable than people describe it on the Internet. However, for good liposomes, you’ll want to keep the temperature down.
Please read my website for more details on all of this.
It’s important that your glass container with the mixture doesn’t sit on the bottom of your ultrasonic bath as this may damage the machine. I’ve made a cardboard stand for mine. As well, the fewer things in your bath the better the more energy will make it into your mixture. In my experience, even a metal cage will lower the ultrasonic power (plastic would absorb more).
Have you considered making it just the blender? According to the patent this can be very effective.
Good luck!
Chris
Hi Chris. I have just made liposomal C using your recipy. Without the ultrasonic cleaner. I just wonder about the taste. You write that the taste is refreshing. I don’t know if I can call my liposomal C for refreshing. It is just awful. I manage to get it down, but it is completely impossible to get anyone else in my family to take it. Will I ruin the liposomes if I blend it with something to make it more tasty?
I’ll have to change the post, Katy. I definitely don’t find it refreshing. I think some lemon juice would really help get it down. The only thing I might not do is add something too sugary. My thoughts anyway.
Why does the mixture after the ultrasound have thick sticky brownish stuff in the bottom of the cleaner?
Add cinnamon and a bit of raw honey.
Hi Katy,
The ‘refreshing’ comment was an attempt at humour on my part.
The taste is really horrible!
If you can dilute it water, or anything else to make it go down – that would good. However, try not to use something sugar based as vitamin c and sugar compete in the body.
Good luck,
Chris
Hi I do not have an ultrasonic cleaner. Is it still OK to follow the same recipe and it has the same effect without it? Where is a good place to buy one if I have to have one? Thanks
Did you use the Transmission electron microscopy to prove that the liposomes are really created?
As I mention in the article, I have not done any testing to validate this.
Do you have contact info. I found your page via google before this one, and have tried the recipe, but could onlybfine sunflower lecithin powder. You’re also the only one i can find an alcohol recipe.
Here is a potential source of liquid sunflower lecithin, Bobbie.
https://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Sunflower-Liquid-Lecithin/dp/B00J8ET8IO
HI Chris and Andrea. I’m just starting to research this. I read the following comment elsewhere online” “All this high speed blending and stirring without a nitrogen blanket on top of the mixture will definitely cause a lot of vitamin C to become oxidized. Ingesting too much oxidized vitamin C is toxic to the body.”
Could either of you speak to the veracity of this statement?
Yes, that might be a potential possibility of the ascorbic acid becoming oxidized; though one can use a couple of teaspoons of powdered gelatin to be able to protect the actual ascorbic acid from being inadvertently becoming oxidized during the mixing and blending process; also since the gelatin makes it easier for the actual ascorbic acid to be blended and mixed together with the lecithin as a mixture; other nice thing is Knox powdered gelatin has typically no flavor at all; gelatin is also useful when combined in a mixture with ascorbic acid that allows one to boost ones bodies capability to enhance its production of collogen which is useful to those with muscle aches, athritis, sore back pain from over exertion, etc.
Hi Cindy,
In my experience the vitamin C will not appreciably oxidize if you follow my recipe. If you keep the temperatures reasonable you’ll be fine.
If you’d like to experiment with what it take to oxidize C, mix some it water and heat it until it starts turning yellow. Yellow is the colour it will turn as it oxidizes. You’ll find it takes enough heat and time to do that – much much more than you’ll need to make liposomes.
Good luck!
Chris
Hi Chris,
I made lip c according to your recipe with vodka. the taste is a bit sour but ok.
question about the alcohol, i don’t have the ultrasonic machine, and once the vit c starts to dissolve i turn out the gas. is it right that the alcohol is not supposed to evaporate due to low temperature?
thanks!!
I’m not sure on that. Maybe someone else will chime in or you can contact the expert on this.
Hi Gianluigi,
Alcohol will evaporate regardless of temperature (like water), just more slowly. It’s ok if some evaporates during the production process.
Good luck!
Chris
Chris, I’ve made multiple batches of Lip C using your recipe (both with and without ultrasound) — my experience with taking it has been less than satisfactory — the “bowel intolerance” hits with doses of 1 teaspoon of product or less ( 3 grams ascorbic acid/day or less).
I’m pretty well convinced that the Lip C I’ve produced per your recipes to date have very minimal amounts of the vtmn C actually contained in liposomes — most of it (90%+) is simply dissolved in water and emulsified with the sunflower lecithin powder (and not contained in lipisomes). If it were truly in lipisomal form then I should be able to take up to 9 to 15 grams/day vtmn C in 3 to 5 doses during a day.
Could you please provide me with some communications regarding this topic? and different possibilities to test the making process?
Hi Tim,
I’ve been using Chris’ lipo c recipe (without the alcohol though) but with an ultrasonic cleaner and I’ve been taking the equivalent of 24g vit c daily for the last 6 days and no diareah! So I’m hoping that’s because the vit c is encapsulated. So maybe we do need sonification to encapsulate properly. Trouble is theres no way of testing it without an electron microscope.
Tim, I have used the recipe (with ultrasound) and I have been taken between 10-30gs/day withoug any stomac discomfort. I do not know if that can be achieved by just a emulsion, if not then in speaks in favor for the claim that the process makes real liposomes.
Hi Chris! I’ve looked at your site and I like it very much, especially in comparison to all the information regarding liposomal vitamin c. I do have questions for you and it would be nice to see a discussion area added to your page for people to learn and grow. What lead me to this page (after looking at yours) was the source for more organic and natural sources of materials used. In the past I have used organic apple juice in place of water and also used organic acerola cherry powder as the vitamin c in combination with liquid lecithin. Lecithin is lecithin weather you use liquid or not (I would think the liquid lecithin would be best considering they don’t use chemical solvents to extract the lecithin comparitive to the powdered form). My question for you is can I use 190proof organic grape alcohol and if so, what amount would you suggest? Thank you both for your informational pages! The information provided I am extremely grateful for!!!! Looking forward to trying camu camu this time around, although I would like to use healthforce nutritionals truly c powder for the vitamin c and see how that works. Thanks again!!
I recommend asking Chris directly through his website. He really is the expert on this. I just based my recipe on his and am happy with it – but he really knows the specifics better than I do. Here is his site:
http://qualityliposomalc.com/
I’d love to hear what you learn as you go along!
Chris’s website doesn’t have a way of communicating with Chris that I can find. I, too, have some inquiries after making my first batch of liposomal C following his protocol.
Can you direct me how to get in touch with him?
Thanks.
Jo Anne
Hi Elizabeth,
Without the proper equipment it is hard to validate liposome production.
However, I’d suggest sticking to the recipe as it is close to the patent LivOn purchased and seems to work.
You mention using Acerola Cherry Powder. This powder is much lower quality source of C. By definition it has lots of fruit components in it, tree fungus, etc. All the things you’d expect to get when you grind up fruit. These things may then be encased in liposomes and put into your body.
I would not recommend it.
190proof alcohol of any sort is probably fine as the impurities would be relatively low.
Best of luck!
Chris
What about using camu camu and possible tree fungus or other impurities?
I liked Andrea’s suggestion for using camu, which is natural whole spectrum C, because ascorbic acid isn’t really vitamin C and there’s a lot of controversy surrounding taking it on a daily basis. It’s basically a chemically processed antibiotic and can mess up the microbiome. I saw once where it killed a significant numbers of specific probiotic bacteria in vitro. Certain species appear to survive ascorbic acid better than others, but there’s still the problem of wiping out a significant population of specific gut bacteria.
I hadn’t considered until now that making ascorbic acid a lipid
through liposomal absorption means the good and the bad can become locked into our fat cells. (It’s no longer water soluable so elimination or detox pathways are changed.)
Could this disrupt the bacteria within the cells? (Whereas ascorbic acid likely only disrupts the gut bacteria.)
This is really something to consider. I’d love to hear your thoughts.
hi chris, i just made your vitamin C using vodka. surprised at how much is needed. i will get the 98% alcohol next, as i was able to get a permit for it here in the states. i wondered though-i think part of the issue for making your recipe is that you are using granules. i am using sunflower lecithin POWDER, and it is much denser, so i followed your suggestion of a 20% reduction of lecithin. i wonder if you could let me know your thoughts about this matter. when i researched the difference between powder and granules, the granules are further processed with extra soy oil, which adds estrogen back in the mix, which i’m trying to avoid. thank you! i really appreciate your generosity! yours too, andrea!
Hi Adrienne,
I’m not sure on the details of the powder vs granule manufacturing, however, I believe it is the soy protein (not the oil) which is a phytoestrogen.
Good luck!
Chris
I find the Sunflower powder dissolves very easy ….much so better than the granules.
Yes, and I read that the extraction process for soy lecithin is much harsher than from sunflower. As an example, benzene is often used, but never disclosed. These harsh solvents could potentially become liposomal encased and locked into fat cells along with the vitamin C.
Hi Chris,
I am about to make the lipo vit c with the more detailed recipe. My question is: I have an inexpensive u/s machine that does not have temperature measurement or use a beaker (just put directly in ) . Can I go ahead and use this basic ultrasound, with this recipe and end up with half- decent Lipo vit C?
Thank you,
Renee
Hi Renee,
As long as you follow the steps carefully on the website (http://qualityliposomalc.com) you don’t even need the ultrasonic bath – a blender should fine!
Good luck!
Chris
Can I ad co q enzyme powder to the Vit C. recipe with my Ultrasonic machine to make lipsomal Co q enzyme?
I have liquid lecitin but there is no reference to liquid amounts help?
I’m not sure on this one.
Hi Chris
I have been using your website as a guide to making liposomal c for a while now. Thanks for publishing it.
I feel I know need to purchase a proper ultrasonic cleaner. Can you tell me if need to look for in the specification?
Thanks
Oliver
I honestly think they are all pretty solid. I bought ours on Amazon and have been very happy with it.
Hi Oliver,
I’d agree with Andrea on this. However, if you follow the recipe on my site you’ll only a blender – an ultrasonic bath is not needed.
Good luck!
Chris
Thanks Chris, I am on my second batch. I started to come down with the flu and i had most of the equipment. It took a day to make. I started immediately to take the product. Worked like a charm as far as I’m concerned. I appreciate the information.
i would love to read about your other liposomal vitamins and antibiotic procedures.
Thanks for all the great information. Getting everything ready to make my first batch. I wanted to make the same recipe that you make with the ethyl alcohol. When I looked it up on Amazon it’s right there with ethyl rubbing alcohol 99%, even the 70% ethyl alcohol is with the rubbing alcohols. Is this the same alcohol? I appreciate your time in teaching everyone about this!
Linda,
I use vodka. Not sure what Chris would say.
Hi Linda,
You need to be careful when sourcing alcohol. I believe most of the ‘rubbing alcohol’ is denatured which means they’ve added stuff to it in order to make it poisonous.
If you’re just getting started I’d suggest buying Vodka (like Andrea) or similar clear food grade product.
Good luck,
Chris
Hi Chris,
I tried to send you a message through your website but the message section is faulty. Here’s my message:
Hi Chris,
What do you think about using 95 – 96% vodka to make the liposomal C, seeing that the ethyl alcohol is difficult to get? Would there be a problem using this higher percentage seeing that it is vodka and not ethyl alcohol which I assume would evaporate? Or am I wrong in this assumption, and they both don’t evaporate? Also, do you see any problem using DMSO as a solvent to make liposomal C ….healthwise I mean, as in, is it not as good as ethyl because it keeps working to dissove even the lecithin completely and other unwanted things in the body…or is this a benefit to using it (DMSO)? Also, what do you think of using “Rose Spirit” that cake decorators use?
If using the high 96% alcohol vodka, does this mean the person may be intoxicated drinking the end result liposomal C?
I read that ethyl alcohol itself is very beneficial in the body to kill off viruses, bacteria etc, would this be the same for the vodka or not?
Oh no, never use rubbing alcohol also known as methyl, propyl and butyl alcohol, if consumed it can result in blindness and death, even in relatively small doses. Many years ago methanol was purposely added to ethanol/alcohol to “discourage” consumption so that alcohol could be used in industry, and thus we have isopropyl alcohol today (aka, rubbing alcohol).
Aa an herbalist I’ve seen where this can get confusing to folks. It’s safe to use real alcohol, known as ethanol, as a solvent however. This is the type of alcohol that is the intoxicating agent found in beer, wine and liquor.
Everclear is the alcohol of choice for most herbalists where it’s legal, which is 95 proof, but I’ve used vodka and Christian Brothers brandy at 80 proof for nearly 40 years for making herbal tinctures. These are all perfectly safe.
90% = 180 proof for Everclear
Hi Chris,
I noticed you say in your recipe, one mL is about 200mg of C. How did you come to that number?
You put about 160g in at the beginning so wouldn’t it be 160mg per mL or were you just rounding up?
Also how long does this last (before it expires)?
And have you looked at the recipe under microscope comparing how many liposomes between various points of the blend/refrigerate cycle.
Thanks for all the research.
Sincerely,
James
You might consider contacting Chris directly through his website. These are good questions.
I would like to get Chris’s recipe if using Camu Camu instead of Ascorbic Acid. Does he believe that you can, in fact, make liposomal C from Camu Camu?
Please advise Chris . . . Thanks . . . Steve
That’s a good question and wish I knew the answer!
Hi Steve,
I’d recommend pure ascorbic acid.
Anything such as Camu or Acerola Cherry will have lots of other impurities that you probably don’t want to wrap with liposomes and put into your body.
Good luck,
Chris
Hi, Chris,
you use ascorbic acid as “vitamin C”. Which is acidic, pH 1 to 1,5. Other sources use sodium ascorbate – including the patent you mention: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120171280 – with pH of aqueous solutions 5.6 to 7.0 or even higher. Thwey make it from ascorvic acid and (mostly (sodium bicarbonate).
So what is correct?
Hi Tomas,
I’m not a scientist, however, my understanding is that just about anything that will dissolve into water can be encapsulated in a liposome.
Good luck!
Chris
I tried both recipes but it never thickened up.
I would suggest using a lab beaker in water instead of having fluid sit on Stainless steel.
The vodka solution on chris website I believe should be revised for the following reasons:
(vit c and lechithin remain constant at whatever alcohol and water so it’s not considered in below solution calculation)
The original chris solution uses 98% alcohol. There is 112.5g alcohol (114.8*.98) and 2.29g (114.8*.02) of water in that concentration. Then 477.6g of water is added. So in that original solution there is about 23% alcohol (112g alcohol / 479g water)
So to get to the above alcohol ratio using 40% vodka then you would use 280g of vodka. That’s 112g (280*.4) in alcohol and 168g (280*.6) of water. Then add 311g of water.
Now we have the same 23% alcohol solution (112g/479g).
that’s 57g less voda or 22.8g less alcohol than is needed to match to original solution.
overall concept: If the original 98% alcohol solution was diluted to anything above 40% then it would have been impossible to use 40% vodka.
It took me a while but your right. I made a test batch using original numbers and it smelled very alcoholic. I think if using sunflower lecithin powder instead of soy lecithin granules you should use 20% less lecithin as it’s mentioned in the process, bringing the ratio of ascorbic acid and sunflower lecithin very close to 1:1
I want to try make this without alcohol using an ultrasonic machine, there’s just so many different recipe’s and hard to know what is most effective. This one is interesting but the amounts used are very small, could use some modifying I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTbxzWQKIDo
I checked with Azure on this. The product they sell extracts the lecithin using a solvent (hexane). It is more expensive, but I use the mechanically extracted sunflower lecithin from Lekithos. https://www.mysunflowerlecithin.com/
Thanks for the recipe.
Great! I changed the recommendation.Thanks Janet!
Which ultrasonic cleaner do you use? as hexane is toxic
This is the one I have. I’m not aware of any hexane in the cleaner.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GA1I3M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
so is the vit c made from corn?
Hi Andrea,
I am thinking about ordering the ultrasonic cleaner you recommend which is larger than mine.. The one I have (Ivation) works really well but doesn’t hold the whole batch which means I have to divide it. I have always stirred mine. Do you need to stir in your cleaner? Thanks for your advice.
Janet
Good question, Janet. I haven’t found that I need to stir it.
Thanks Andrea. This is going to make it soooo much easier. My husband and I are going through it pretty fast.
Janet
Is it possible to make liposomal vit c without an ultra sonic cleaner. I read somewhere that it can be done in a blender but just wondering if that will still work and be beneficial. Many thanks
I think there is something unique about the ultrasonic cleaner as far as uniting the Vit C and the lecithin. But I’ve read the same thing and since I can’t test to compare, I can’t say for sure. It’s a good question that’s for sure.
Is the recipe possible without using soy lecithin? Can I substitute something else? I’m a breast cancer survivor with 90 percent estrogen and progesterone positive cancer. I take tremendous lengths to avoid soy and am not about to start adding it in, here. Thank you.
Debra,
I might try sunflower lecithin. This is a reputable brand.
https://www.mysunflowerlecithin.com
Would it be alright to add some stevia to the mix to improve the taste?
I know that I wouldn’t hesitate to try it, but honestly, I find it easier to get it down and then follow with a sip of kombucha or something like that.
Hi can u tell me what is it for. Is it better to use the recipe with vodka in it.
This is simply a way to get a bit more vitamin C absorbed into the body. The vodka method may be better, but I have yet to try it.
guy,
i read its not good to do any sugar as this will compete with the vit c absorption
Yes that is true and sugar always wins over vitamin C although one could probably use a sugar substitute like xylitol as that is the sugar substitute that most diabetics use quite commonly.
Wow, this is great, Andrea! I’d just about given up on vitamin c supplements since discovering they’re mostly corn-based (I’m allergic to corn). I’m definitely going to be giving all the links a good look-through and trying to make it myself.
Thank you so much for sharingbit with us at Savoring Saturdays!
Yes, see what you think, Raia! Thanks for hosting Savoring Saturdays.
Sadly the recipe without alcohol is only an emulsion. An emulsion will help more vitamin c get into the blood but certainly is not liposomal. Otherwise thanks for some excellent info.
Jason. Are you saying that if you put alcohol in the mixture, it will be liposomal? If this is the case, how much do you recommend?
Kelea,
Here is the recipe in detail:
http://qualityliposomalc.com/process/index.html
Hi Andrea
Where can I buy distilled water from? I’ve seen it in Halfords (it says it’s OK for car batteries etc), but surely this is not the same as distilled water that can be consumed.
Yours advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Jenny
Your local grocer should carry distilled water in jugs. I’m not sure about the car battery distilled water, but it might be the same, honestly. You can check with the company on the label. Amazon offers distilled water (though the cost is higher)
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=distilled+water
jenny,
distilled water for batteries is ok, as long as you’re not taking it from the battery lol
rainwater is also distilled as long as you get it before its landed on any surface other than your jar
Hi Andrea
Thank you very much for your reply. Outlets selling drinkable distilled water in the UK are very few and far between (grocers over here do not carry it). But I have found one or two suppliers on Amazon UK, so thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
Kind regards
Jenny
Thank you for this post. I’ve always wanted to do this. Right now I buy it from Seeking Health, because I trust Dr. Ben Lynch. It’s expensive.
Have you tried making lipsomal glutathoine
I have the glutathione powder and have been wanting to try it. Just the push I needed!
Heyy!
I am also making my own liposomal C but your recipe will not make liposomes, please check the next recipe made after a patanted method which actually LivOn bought….and they are claiming you cannot make your own just to buy from them.
Please check this great site where you will find the exact steps for making great liposomes:
http://qualityliposomalc.com/research/index.html
And here is the patented product description:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20120171280
Yuanpeng Zhang is the author of the recipe, he is the inventor and we have to thank him a loot!
You cannot obtain liposomes without alcohol as you will see on the above links.
It is extremely strong, I have serious Herxeimer if I take too much and go too fast but IT IS AMAZING!
Can I use everclear 95% for the alcohol? Also what other alcohols are acceptable. Ive found 95% everclear recently.
Can you share some of the positive effects you noticed after taking this diy Liposomal C ?
For me, primarily immune support. I was able to avoid a serious cold when it was going around our house several months ago.
Can I use Liquid vitamin C instead of powder? Is it necessary to use non GMO?
I try to avoid GMOs whenever I can. The liquid vitamin C is an interesting idea. I would ask the expert who I refer to in the article.
I have a question about the alcohol. Why do you add it? Wouldn’t kill any good enzymes? Most of the processes on the internet do not use alcohol. I dont have anything against alcohol (love wine) but when making something good for your body it seems like it would be counter productive. I would love to hear your comments on this.
thanks/Joe
I have used this recipe with and without alcohol and didn’t notice a difference. According to the true experts (the author the recipe linked in my post), alcohol is needed to make a true liposome. For me, I make more an emulsion with the camu camu and am very pleased with it.
Can i skip alcohol then? I want to give LVC to my 7 years old daughter
The amount of alcohol is quite low, but I can’t offer help on that question.
Joe, there are no enzymes in ascorbic acid.
Also for children, anything made with alcohol can be administered by adding boiling water to it which will immediately burn off any alcohol. This has never posed a problem for herbal tinctures, but I’m not certain it might not interfere with the lipids in the liposomes, so maybe just dilute the dose with something to better dilute the alcohol.
My Kendal ultrasonic unit has a heater that can be used optionally. During the processing of this recipe, should the heater be on or off?
That’s a good question. I’m not sure. Mine is not heated and the mixture emulsifies just fine. Maybe use without the heater to be sure.
The youtube gurus on the issue says make sure you do not heat it.
moniker
heat kills vit c
not sure of the temp range tho
I would like to know if liposomal vitamin C can be made with BodyBio’s 4:1 PC. This is a high quality liquid phosphatidylcholine (PC) that my doctor wants me to take. I’d like to avoid additional PC because the doctor says the 4:1 is so strong. So just wondering how the recipe might need to be changed because the 4:1 PC is already a very thick liquid. Or should I just try to work in as much of the C-water-vodka solution as I can. How can I tell when the ratio of PC to C solution is right? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
My recipe is not a professional one. This is a good question for Chris who I reference throughout the article:
http://qualityliposomalc.com/
My wife has made it several times and has managed to make it taste pretty good. However it keeps separating. Is there something obvious we are doing wrong that will cause this?
Maybe blend again and then use the sonic cleaner one more time. I’m not sure, though, Karl.
A Dr. Thomas Levy on youtube made the comment that it is not liposomal but an emulsion. The emulsion is still a good deal – a good idea that works. However, if there is something vital to survival and you rely upon liposomal, you need to USE liposomal indeed – premium results vs. good results.
Dr. Levy has an interest in liv on labs so he says that to discourage you from making your own.
I definitely agree with you on this. Discouraging people from making homemade liposomes forces people to buy their products
One can try using some common ordinary Knox powdered gelatin this would allow the liposmal vitamin C to keep from separating out.
There is a few interesting notes above about Hexane. Reading up on Hexane Uses on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexane#Uses) it would seem that it is more related to Soy products then perhaps the ultrasonic cleaner (components?). Still, the comments above related to both. So, there is risk for Hexane in Soy products (does that include the lecithin powder?) and in the Ultrasonic cleaners (and if so where in the cleaner, and how to check?)
That’s a great question! I wish I had the answer. If you learn anything I would love to hear back.
wow!!!! Andrea and christ
thank you so so much!!!!!!!!!!!
you have no ideas what you make change!!
thank u again
I have been making/taking liposomal vit-c for a long time.
Years… I use a blender initially, then use the ultrasonic cleaner
and refrigerate it. I can’t always get distilled water and have not noticed
any detrimental affects. I never get colds that are more than a nuisance,
and I do believe that it does work… sometimes though the mind is very
powerful.. if you get my drift, bottom line is YES, DO TRY IT.. I THINK you
will be surprised with the results. I would ck with your doctor before doing it
though… just in case there are any interactions with meds you may be taking.
Hi. I’ve made the liposomal c numerous times using camu camu, sunflower lecithin and a bit of vodka.
i put it in a sonic cleaner for about 30 mins.
In order to determine the effectiveness of encapsulation, i test it by pouring a little bit of the finished lipo c in a bowl and then i sprinkle a bit of baking soda on it. If it doesn’t fizz, i know that most of the vitamin c is encapsulated.
One can also order some test litmus paper test strips; if it was truly encapsulated then it should not be an acid ph anymore.
I have a lot of settlement in the bottom of my container after several days of it sitting in the frig. Is this ok or does it mean it did not mix correctly?
You can always blend it again. That happens sometimes for me too.
Dr. Tom Levy says one must use phosphatidylcholine rather than just lecithin to make lipo-c and he doesn’t sound very optomistic that it can be made at home by amateurs unfortunately, anyone tried this formula?
As others have said, Dr. Levy has a financial stake in LivOn labs. See here http://qualityliposomalc.com/ to learn why Dr. Levy is wrong.
Why vodka? I came across many recipes without vodka.
I have tried to use liquid sunflower lecithin only to find it a sticky mess and I am unable to work with it or dissolve it in water– any advice ? TIA
I don’t! Maybe go back to the granules. I have found my liquid dissolves eventually, but not sure what to suggest.
How many grams of vit C are in a tablespoon in your receipe?
how long does it last in the frig?
It should last indefinitely. You will know if it goes bad for some reason.
HI
thank you for the instructions. I have made a few batches but not using alcohol. I put them in glass jars but i notice the lid on the jars always seem to get “gunky ” like build up. not sure why or what I am doing wrong. Have you ever seen this before and any idea what or how to prevent it?
thank you
I have not! Perhaps Chris (the expert) would know.
Thank you for your post; I. Was reading one of the best books on V-C and was surprised to find the last chapter was devoted to Liposomal. I hope all of your readers will check it out.
Curing the Incurable, by Thomas Levy MD.
At the end of his chapter he directs you to some very good websites.
Be well
How much camu camu we use, compared to vitamin c ?
Thank you very much
I’ve been using the same amount of camu camu, but honestly not sure on this.
In your recipe for printing you include vodka in the ingredient list but it is not mentioned in the instructions!
Also you do not mention anything about temperature when using the ultrasonic machine, which would be helpful. Thanks.
It is mentioned here in the instructions, Carole:
“Stir vitamin C powder and vodka into 1 cup distilled water.”
Temperature would be room temperature on everything.
Hi Andrea,
That was my question too. Alcohol isn’t on the printed recipe… but now I know! Thank you!
Hi Andrea, Thank you for putting out such great information.
I am going to try this.
Do you know of a good/affordable source for non-corn derived vitamin C?
Thanks!
Pure Formulas has a solid reputation. See what you think: https://www.pureformulas.com/vitamin-c1000-noncorn-source-120-capsules-by-ecological-formulas.html
Thank you!
We have a hand vacuum pump like the ones mechanics use for bleeding brakes. We put a plexiglass plate and a layer of rubber over the beaker and vacuum. The drop in pressure causes the air bubbles to expand and rise up and pop. This is how you degass casting resin. Search degassing resin to find many helpful ideas.
I find out that the once blended mix (liquid lecithin+vit c+vodka), put it in refrigerator, frequently shake the container about 4-6 times a day, then the lipo will get more and more homogeneous.
You will get the most homogeneous mixture after 100 hours, depends of how many times you shake the container.
It seems that ultrasonic machine shorten the time to minutes/hours instead of hundreds of hours. Dissolve liquid lecithin in water takes so much time if done without ultrasonic.
What does the ultrasonic cleaner do?
Sonication utilizes sound energy to agitate particles, thus prompting the release of nutrients, as I understand it.
I have read a study (can’t find it now, aargh! ) comparing a sonification probe vs using a bath. The probe produced significantly smaller liposomes. From my reading it seems the smaller the liposomes the more readily they are absorbed.
Does anyone have a link an economical signification probe setup. Thanks
That study of liposome production https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4157015/
Does Chris ever answer any of these questions left unanswered in this post?
Hi Mary Ann,
Yes 🙂 but it takes me a while apparently.
I hope you’ve had good luck making liposomal vitamin C.
Best,
Chris
HI Andrea and All, am a new cancer patient and I have heard about Liposomal Vitamin C but I guess my question (dumb as it may be) why make it rather than buying it? Im sure anything homemade is better than something manufactured but I just want to know?
For me, it’s just a matter of controlling the ingredients. It may be fine to buy it but this does save money in the long run too.
Do i use heat function when making?
I don’t, but Chris mentioned in the post is the expert.
I don’t understand why alcohol is used in this recipe. Living Herbal Farmacy is really into making Liposomal Vitamin C and they don’t use it. Can someone please explain to me what the alcohol does that makes it worthwhile to add?
Hi Beach,
The alcohol is used to help form the liposomes. You can read more here:
http://qualityliposomalc.com/research/index.html
Good luck!
Chris
Hi Chris.
I made the above recipe, but for some reason it didn’t become thick. I would like to make this vitamin C with out an ultrasonic machine. Is that possible? The ultrasonic machine I have only works for 8 minutes at a time and hold very little. Any help would be greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much
I would ask Chris directly through his website. He really is the expert, Karen.
was told by a scientist that this doesn’t truly make lyposomal Vitamin C but just an emulsion.
Don’t know who is correct or how to find out.
This is not meant to be negative.
Just trying to find out the facts.
I’ve heard this too and honestly can’t say.
Hi James,
The alcohol is key to the process. If you read here:
http://qualityliposomalc.com/research/index.html
You’ll see that LivOn actually purchased a patent that describes the process or making liposomes.
Good luck,
Chris
awesome link thank you. i have a friend who is patronising me and quoting dr Levy as saying you cannot make it at home, he says ‘you can only make an emulsion’ hm. And he’s affiliated with LivOn..
can i add glutathione?? please
I know that I would!
Fantastic article & recipe, Thank you Andrea!
In the article you reference Chris Kesser about soy lecithin. He refers to very minute quantities in processed food. The liposomal C recipe use a very large quantity of lecithin. I don’t think using such a large amount of soy lecithin is a good idea (for all the reasons we already know) and we should stick to using sunflower lecithin.
A couple of other thoughts-
I suspect that the Camu Camu powder probably doesn’t dissolve that easily in the solution, and would yield a much weaker final product than using a highly refined vitamin C powder.
I prefer a non corn based product, and I’ve learned that if a vitamin C product says “non GMO” and “corn free” it is most likely derived from GMO corn, unless it specifically states what food source it is made from. I have been using Ecological Formulas vitamin C made from tapioca. I really like how I feel with it, but have significant gastrointestinal trouble. I’m going to try using it with your recipe and see how I do with it. I’m glad I found your site!
Would the Everclear or Vodka be detrimental to someone with liver cancer and cirrhosis?
I don’t have the answer on this, Donna. Chris might whose website I reference in the article.
Hi Donna,
I would definitely be cautious as the alcohol would need to be metabolized.
However, I’m not a doctor.
Good luck,
Chris
Hi Andrea – thanks for sharing your liposomal C recipe. I am thinking of starting doing it as well and have a question about using camu camu powder, which seems a better, more natural alternative to vitamin C powder.
I can understand liposomal C from the ascorbic acid can enter into our cells directly but will the liposomal camu camu version also be able to *directly* pass into the blood stream and penetrate the cell membrane into the cells? If not, i.e. it needs to break down in our digestive track, wouldn’t that process strip off the lipid layer which is the whole purpose of this?
Thanks in advance.
That’s an excellent point and I have no idea. I assume it’s better than taking the powder straight, but I honestly don’t know.
My ultrasonic cleaner pan is made of aluminum it seems. It failed a magnet test. I chose to place my mixture inside a quart mason jar inside the ultrasonic cleaner that was filled with water. I saw someone else online do this. I would imagine that it may not be healthy to make your mixture inside of an ultrasonic cleaner made of aluminum.
Right?
Depends on the alloy. Many stainless steel alloys are non-magnetic. Check your product manual, but I doubt yours is aluminum.
Hi Chris,
Can I add reduced glutathione to your Vit C recipe online using the blender method or should vit c and glutathione be made separately (in separate batches)?
If they can be made as one batch how much reduced glutathione should I add to the your vit c recipe?
If glutathione should be made separately (without vit c), how much glutathione should I use instead of vit c in your recipe?
Could you also provide guidelines, measurements and possible combinations to make other liposomal supplements, eg: tumeric, q10, whatever else is possible…
Thank you in advance!
Thanks in advance
Or if making separately how much reduced glutathione
Hi there,
I am about to start making my own liposomal and your recipe seems the best one, but i can’t see when Im meant to add the vodka? thanks in advance!
It’s in step 2, Leonie.
Hi, very glad to find this comment field about the great infos that Chirs shared on his dedicated website. Thank you for that Chris, and Andrea.
Having found powder sunflower lecithin, which feels like super fine granules under the fingers, it dissolves quite easily and fast, and found that it probably don’t need to be mixed as much as the granules, without to be sure of that, just made my first batch. Seems quite OK, but no way to control it. The liquid has the good viscosity, is brauner/darker since the original lecithin powder is darker, and didn’t bubbles issue, probably much less prone than the granules. Before the ulstrasonic part, I added some essential oil of cinnamon, as it has a kind of sweet flavor, and when I take the product, of course disolved into water, as for the factory one, the taste is quite OK. And compared with the Zooki liposomal C, it has the same whitish colour when mixed with water, which prooves that the commercial ones content also alchool. So far so good, just that the lecthin isn’t very digest, I feel.
Anyone having made the Chris recipee with lecithin powder, and having some thoughts about the need to mix the powder as much as the granules? Thanks for reading! Rob
Hiya!
I’ve just started making liposomal vitamin c and have been consuming quite large doses of 24g a day for the last 6 days and have no diareah, thank goodness, which leads me to believe it must be encapsulated because surely if it wasn’t I’d be running to the loo every 5 minutes lol.
The only thing I would love to change is its flavour. It is so disgusting! When I take it I hold my nose and have another drink lined up to drink straight away, but even with all that I still get that disgusting after taste.
Can anyone think of anyway to make it taste better. I’m sure the commercial versions don’t taste this bad or they’d never sell it so there must be a way.
Hi Julie, as I told in my previous post, the raw product tastes very sour, but when diluted into water, the taste is very acceptable, just some lectihin taste. Also, as I said, essential oil of cinnamon, brings a slight sweet taste. I put like 8 drops for half liter, prior putting it into the jar into the ultrasoni machine. BTW, I’m making Chris recipe and not Andrea’s. When not diluted, the final product is weird, but again, when diluted, I start to really like it, and take around 6–8gr/day in 2 or 3 takes. So 24 gr of Liposomal seems huge, when Dr T Levy advices 5g/day, plus powder Ascorbat as much as possible (before having gastric issue). So taking 25 gr of Lipo C makes quite a lot of final product (like 150/200cc). So need to add a lot of water, like one liter, to make it easy to drink.
Hi Andrea and Alan,
some time ago I discovered that a high dose of Vitamin C (typically 20mg daily) combined with L-Lysine with help clean the arterial system as will the flavonoids found in dark fruits such as blueberry and blackcurrant. I take these three things combined in a mineral water rich in silicic acid which will also help the body excrete aluminium (a must for today). My question is that I would like to make liposomal Vitamin C as you detail, but would combining this with other substances (especially L-Lysine) in the same mineral water actually form liposomes and still have the same rate of absorption?
Chris might know the answer, Tony. You can try contacting him through his website.
Chris,
I want to also make Liposomal glutathione. Would I just sub the amount of absorbic acid powder for reduced glutathione?
I am making this for the first time today, using Chris’ recipe at his website. Do you know why he suggests refrigeration between cycles of blending? I would ask him directly, but there is no way to contact him on his website. Thanks for the info!
I honestly don’t know, Marsha. I wish I knew more!
I read that one cannot make true liposomes with this recipe. I read that one needs a device that forces the vitamin C in to the phospholipids atd I high speed and pressure. I cannot validate this, but I am just wanting to know what everyone here thinks?
Dear Chris,
Your website is excellent! You have made it easy to make high quality liposomes at home! I have tried to find you, but in your previous version of your website you never gave any information about yourself, but now I saw your new version. However it did not work to give a comment there (the site just freezes when trying to do that) therefore I am trying to reach you here. I have two questions:
(1): if you have a ultrasonic cleaner with degassing option (mine, however does only do degassing for 90 sec before switching to ordinary mode) do you really need to use the blender several times over several days? Is not better to do the ultrasonic treatment right away (but perhaps for a longer time than an hour)?
(2) Can the same recipe be used for other agents than vitamin c? (Thinking about Q10, curcummin, gluthatione etc)? Or does it depend on the substance?
Another thing, do you know that research shows that there is a way to increase the effectiveness of liposomes even more? By adding Macrogol [Polyethylene glycol (PEG) ] you can prevent the immune system from intervening which enables the liposomes to circulating even longer in the body. One of the researcher showing this is Zhang himself. In one study it was shown that with added macrogol you had three more of the active substance passing the blood brain barrier. Macrogol is also available to laypeople.
Kind regards,
André
Question: You mention additional blending if the mixture doesn’t separate properly. Aren’t you trying to make an emulsion that doesn’t separate? If not, how SHOULD it separate – if it’s made properly?
I have had great success with Chris’s recipe for Lipo c ..
Now I have been reading about Apatone.. Which is 100:1 ratio of vitamin c and vitamin k-3 ,
Also read about the studies ,they had great results ,then the studies stop ..
Trying to find anyone that has tried to make this , or know anything about it.. If it’s possible to make in a Lipo form???
At the CHIPSA center they are using it for their cancer patients with and without chemo and having good results..
There is also a link to buy it but must pick it up in Mexico,they say one compound needs to be frozen until it is used.. Otherwise they said it would end up being very weak.. Not sure if it was in pill form it can in a bottle it looked like ..
Any ways just wondering how to get this together ,I live in Michigan to far to buy a bottle at a time, they did say it comes in a package to keep it froze to go across border and to fly home tho..I
I do have a family member she just found out her cancer has spread..
I would rather learn how to make it ,,someone must have tried or know something..please
And
Thank You in advance.Ted
Dear Chris
If the mixture is to thick can a guy just ad water to get it the right consistency?
I should of did what you suggested and pulled 20% of the Lecithin until I found out.
The brand Iam trying is Sunflower Lecithin Pure Powder and quite dark in colour and of course its a powder.
I mixed everything together on the first blend, I use a Vitamin blender. Is there such a thing as blending it too fast.
Needless to say it came out after 2 min’s looking like the consistency of a beef marrow that would not pour. the colour was brown so I mixed more water so it will pour. Do you think there is a chance I caused the mixture to oxidize and that’s why its so brown? Is there a way to find out if it is Oxidized I just don’t want to hurt any body.
Can someone tell me what the pH of the liposomal Vitamin C made with ascorbic acid should be::
1. after making it in a blender
2. after using the unltrasonic cleaner method
As for anyone trying to get rid of the (as expressed by my significant other) “VILE” taste….
Once all is said & done, mix in a little, pure Vanilla extract (make sure it is PURE, not some mamby-pamby grocery store flavoring) & a few drops Stevia liquid. It kills most of the “VILENESS”
Good luck
Does anyone know how many total servings you would get out of this recipe, and what the dose of vitamin C would be for each serving? Based on my calculations there would approximately 57 servings (1 TB), with 1 TB equating to 420 mg of Vitamin C.
Thanks Andrea, great post! Question: some recipes (incl. yours) put the mix into the UC directly; others put it into a glass container before going into the UC. Any thoughts on the difference? And wouldn’t using glass require much longer in the UC?
Thx.
Hi Andrea,
What do you mean by: Step 5 “no … separations” and then Step 6 “re-blend if mixture does not separate properly”. In particular what do you mean by Step 6?
Ref.
5. Pour into ultrasonic cleaner and blend for 10-30 minutes.The mixture should be somewhat thick with no lumps or separations.
6. Re-blend if mixture does not separate properly.
Hey,
Is this product safe for topical use? The alcohol content makes it bad for direct application to skin, right?
I have been following Chris’ recipe since March 2017. I can handle the sour taste okay, but my wife doesn’t. She chases it with water to get the taste out of her mouth. 🙂
My lungs feel much clearer now, plus I don’t have the old man problem going to the bathroom. I attribute that to the vitamin C and to the supplemental iodine (25mg) that I am taking.
I had been annoyed by the amount of foam that has to be removed from the rest of the liposomal vitamin C, as it seemed a waste. In pursuing a solution to the foam problem I discovered that if I leave the blender on low for a couple of minutes after the high speed blending, most of the air is removed from the solution. So after every three or four minute blending session I turn my blender to low and allow the solution to mix for an additional one to two minutes, or when I see that most of the air bubbles are gone. I use a Vitamix blender, but I imagine any blender will do the same. What I am left with is a very small amount of foam, which the ultrasonic cleaner helps remove, as well as encapsulating the vitamin C, after I’ve gone through the blending process about six times.
I hope this is helpful. Thanks Chris and Andrea for posting this and for your web sites.
Topical is an interesting idea. The alcohol content is minimal. I don’t think it would irritate the skin.
richard
heres an interesting link from nz
http://www.vitaminc.kiwi
the proof of the pudding etc but
i don’t think id do the dhaa version internally tho after researching it
Hi Richard,
The product is safe for topical use. However, in my research the skin is very resistant to penetration by liposomes, thus I would not expect it to do much helpful for you.
Good luck!
Chris
That’s very helpful, Alan. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this tip!!
Great idea!!!! Thanks for your “degassing” solution!!!
I get rid of the foam by using degas on my ultrasonic machine.